Daggerfall talk:Easter Eggs

Eight Divines

Since they (mostly) first appeared in this game, would mentioning their origins as devs and beta testers fit here? Echo (talk) 17:37, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, sounds like a good place for it. —Legoless (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Just gonna leave the source for this here The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Pelagius the Mad

On Lore talk:Pelagius Septim III, the book The Madness of Pelagius is suggested as based on Caligula or the play The Madness of George III. If anything it's more likely based on the play as Pelagius is the III too. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 03:26, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Seconding, either (or both) as felt appropriate. George III seems like a pretty obvious inspiration Echo (talk) 03:55, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Agreed, lotta similarities. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

The Book of Circles

Copied from Lore talk:Frandar Hunding:

The Book of Circles may be an allusion to The Book of Five Rings, an actual book written by historical Japanese swordsman Miyamoto Musashi, famed as the victor of dozens of duels from an early age. He wrote the book late in his life as a practical guide to combat, and is still prized today among martial artists and even businessmen.

Hunding himself may be a tribute to Musashi, who was also an acclaimed duelist in his youth, and subject of many films, video games and serial dramas in modern times. Hunding is mentioned to have been a duelist until the age of thirty, which happens to be the age Musashi was believed to have his most significant duel. After this, Musashi continued the Way of the Sword, but no longer killed his opponents, preferring civilised bouts with wooden swords to demonstrate his technique. Musashi eventually settled down and lived on a lord's estate later in life, but retired to a mountaintop shrine in his final years to write and meditate. Hunding's time as a hermit after thirty may be a subtle nod to Musashi as well. The Redguards' reverence of Hunding is not unlike Musashi's popularity in Japan even centuries after his death (perhas most notably having an Imperial Battleship from WW2 named in his honor). Schools that teach his style, Niten Ichi-Ryu, still exist today. — Unsigned comment by Alandro Sul (talk • contribs) at 15:58 on 10 March 2013

This seems to be a solid connection. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 03:26, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

100% a reference, a lot of early Redguard lore was inspired by eastern cultures as opposed to arabian/african cultures in later games. Look at Gaiden shinji and some of Hunding's quotes being a riff off sun tzu, its obviously connected. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Nulfaga

On Nulfaga's talk page, it is said that she recites some lines from Lost Paradise: "United thoughts and counsels, equal hope / And hazard in the once glorious enterprise / Joined with me once, now misery hath joined / In equal ruin!". Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 03:26, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it's definitely from Paradise Lost. The quest is Concern for Nulfaga, though. Might be worth Googling her other phrases there as well? Echo (talk) 03:55, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Some more:

"Choosing out few words most horrible, let none them read! Verses, verses frame which with and other spells like terrible curses" is cribbed from The Faerie Queene by Edmund Spenser

"Say, what strange motive, Goddess! could compel..." is from The Rape of the Lock by Alexander Pope

"We are only like dead walls or vaulted graves..." is from The Duchess of Malfi by John Webster.

These are all pretty clearly taken from the source materials. Echo (talk) 05:05, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Lots of evidence for these, quite clear were they came from. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

"Geology and geography of the Henry Mountains region, Utah (1953)"

The false notes in the quest Research Notes contain a particular phrase,

"The end result is a quasi-horizontal chonolith composed of anastomosing ductoliths, whose distal ends curl like a harpolith, thin like a sphenolith, or bulge discordantly like an akmolith or ethmolith."

This describes a geological feature called a cactolith, and this somewhat tongue-in-cheek description first appeared in the paper named in the header. This paper is mostly notable among geologists, and mostly for containing that phrase in the first place. Echo (talk) 04:42, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

This is a very obscure reference haha, I have no doubt it originated from there. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Oghma Infinium

• In Irish mythology, there exists a god called Oghma, whose domains include knowledge, writing and speechcraft; Infinium resembles the Latin infinitum, meaning "infinite". Thus, possible meanings of "Oghma Infinium" could be "endless writings" or "infinite knowledge".

Taken from the Oblivion article. As it first appeared in Daggerfall it belongs in this namespace. I'm torn as to whether its more of an etymology than an egg, but the Daggerfall article lacks a space to put it there. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 18:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Its etymologically 100% based off that. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Actually, the Oghma Infinium first appeared in Arena.

The derivation from Latin seems speculative to me because "infinium" could just as well refer to English "infinite", which would make it too obvious to mention here. Since the Arena page had all the other information, I removed it here. --Ethruvisil (talk) 01:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

"Notes For Redguard History" - a nod to "Warcraft" and "Warcraft II"

The story line about the giant goblins entering into Tamriel and their defeat as described in "Notes For Redguard History", first seen in Daggerfall, is similar in main plot to the story line of Blizzard Entertainment's "Warcraft" and "Warcraft II" games, that came out between Arena and Daggerfall. —MortenOSlash (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't know much of anything about Warcraft, could somebody summarize the main similarities? The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Developer Taverns

Two of the possible names for taverns are "Chris's Inn" and "Hal's Tavern", a reference to producer Christopher Weaver and head programmer Hal Bouma. There are no other inns in the game that are named after individuals. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)