Lore talk:Crescent River

Name of the River?

There are multiple arguments that this river is actually the Xylo, given its location on the Valenwood/Elsweyr border and notwithstanding the Xylo River Basin region in Malabal Tor, whose river disappears into the Grahtwood border and does not reappear on the other side. Without further evidence, the name of a camp which happens to be near a crescent-shaped meander cannot be used to infer the name of the whole river. --Enodoc (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

We can't really know if the entire stretch of river is called the Crescent river, or if it's a particular bend near this camp either. — Unsigned comment by 159.196.162.240 (talk) at 11:46 on 16 July 2022‎

There's a river that can be seen in TES4, which corresponds to ESO's Xylo River (as well as a corresponding river on the Anthology map). However, there is nothing corresponding to ESO's Crescent River in that same gameworld, and nothing obvious on the Anthology map, either. There's a possibility that ESO has it right, and the source (an in-game book) regarding the Xylo being the border is wrong. Either way, unfortunately we now have a primary source- ESO's explorable world- which commits the Xylo's location, and excludes the "Crescent" River from being "actually the Xylo River." I do agree that there's no source for this to be called "Crescent River", just extrapolation which amounts to Original Research, though I don't know how you would get past it. — Unsigned comment by 159.196.162.240 (talk) at 10:26 on 18 July 2022‎

We can't get past it, an article based entirely on an original research title cannot exist. --Enodoc (talk) 21:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Crescent and River are both capitalized, the Xylo River is established as being in Malabal Tor in eso, its pretty open and shut that the river that runs through Reaper's March is called Crescent River. If anything its a guess that the river isn't named Crescent. Order of the Crescent comes up in the zone too. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:33, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

You missed my main point - it's an extrapolation to say that anything outside the camp is called Crescent River. Crescent River Camp is capitalised because it's the name of the camp, anything beyond that is original research. --Enodoc (talk) 21:36, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Quite a few mental gymnastics to say its called that solely due to the coincidental shape of the camp; in fact, the river itself makes quite a few crescent shapes running through the area, hence why the camp itself even makes that shape around the bend, so its anyone's guess as to why its called Crescent River. Is it not far more customary for locations to be named after rivers and not the other way around, like Yorgrim Overlook, Pantherfang Chapel, Treva's Watch, White River Watch, Onkobra Kwama Mine, and so on and so forth, or is that all changed now? Is the camp suddenly a totally different case? It seems far more likely to be the norm to me The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Its not being said its called crescent "solely" for any reason. Its a conceivable possibility. Its also conceivable that it was intended to be the Crescent River, but we can only guess. Looking at a few examples of other naming conventions and then concluding the developers *must* be using the same conventions here, when its not written explicitly anywhere, is the definition of original research.