Skyrim talk:Missing In Action

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Bugs Purge[edit]

I've edited the page for what I know, and so far, with just Windhelm to go, Tullius refuses to even give me the dialogue for the missive to release Thorald, and I sincerely doubt that it has been fixed officially given that so-called 'confirmations' align with the USKPs fix which allows it to happen when you join the Legion. I shall shortly be able to confirm this for certain, but sleep-deprivation must be avoided.

There was a bug listing that if you pickpocket Jon and try to extort him, then pick up the missive, he won't turn up to the shrine. Well that ain't a bug, its because you took the missive so he couldn't find it in order to bring it, so there'd be no point turning up empty handed. Another bug listing that was unconfirmed was the very very common slow spawning by an NPC follower through a loading area, with the fixes confirming this by basically saying 'wait a bit'. Another unconfirmed said you must pass through the right door, but neglects to say on which building this may occur, and is not necessary anyway. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 03:22, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Mission Failed[edit]

I once got a "Mission Failed" message for Missing In Action as I left the weapon shop. Looking around, I found Fralia Grey-Mane dead in a canal with no explanation. Anyone know why or how this happened? --71.58.75.90 05:02, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

She could have died as the result of a bug unrelated to the quest. More than once, I've seen Whiterun citizens randomly spawn at a great height and come crashing to the ground (which of course kills them). Your best bet is probably to reload an earlier save (and confirm Fralia is still alive). Echo (talk) 07:55, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Diplomatic (no combat) solution is possible[edit]

If you have won the war for the Imperials, you can talk to General Tulius in Solitude and instead of saying that it is impossible, he will say that it will present difficulties, but then he will give you an official release for the prisoner. Then when you talk to the first Thalmor guard at Northwatch Keep, they will accept that and lead you (peacefully) down to Thorvald where you can release him. You can then walk through the keep to either exit without combat. — Unsigned comment by 50.197.86.214 (talk) at 22:51 on 19 November 2018

I believe that's only possible with the unofficial patch. As far as I can remember (and as stated on the page), this is incomplete in the original game and doesn't work. See here for details. Robin Hood  (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Forgot to meet her and couldn't find her afterwards until found her casket in halls of dead...[edit]

Seems I have missed the opportunity to do this quest :( I don;t know how or when she died but I know I had left the game after took her quest, and forgot I was supposed to meet her when i got on to play again, until i got the message it failed. I couldn't find her afterwards though and have played a bit since then. A little late now to go back even if I knew which save was before lost her. Is there no other way to do the quest or at least save the guy even if not active quest? — Unsigned comment by 71.60.98.196 (talk) at 23:41 on 17 January 2019 (UTC)

It is not unusual for NPCs to die, making their quests impossible to finish. However frustrating it is a part of the game. If you are playing PC you can of course use console commands to resurrect characters. —MortenOSlash (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Diplomatic Solution Possible Using Unofficial Skyrim Patch[edit]

This is more of a shortcut than anything. Without having to go through the trouble of joining the Imperials to get an Imperial Order to release Thorald (which the USSP patch fixes*) you can add the Imperial Order to your inventory and it will present a new dialogue option for the Thalmor who is guarding the front gate. You can find the "official" item here https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Order but for ease of use I'll simply give you the item code with the command: "player.additem 000524DA 1" obviously without quotations in console. — Unsigned comment by Ir3mix (talkcontribs) at 04:27 on 7 June 2020

Can you activate the quest even if Fralia Grey-Mane is dead?[edit]

It says on the page that you can just talk to Avulstein Grey-Mane in his house to begin the quest without talking to Fralia first. I tried doing that since she was dead and I found her coffin at the hall of dead. But he would just constantly tell me “you need to leave” over and over. Do I need to talk to him without “trespassing” into his house? And besides, the quests needs her for the reward anyway and you needed to tell her about thorald being alive to complete the quest, so how would the quest even work if she’s basically dead? Perhaps I might be misunderstanding this because maybe the quest doesn’t happen without her and Avulstein cant engage his quest dialogue without Fralia being present in the game…I don’t know, that’s just my theory. I’m playing on the switch version of the game btw, so no mods here. Gradd69 (talk) 03:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)