UESPWiki:Archive/CP NPC pages/Master Training Quests

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NPC pages/Master Training Quests + a bit about Independent Thievery

Okay, as the ONPCRP is digging its way through the many NPC pages and and the pages grow bigger and bigger, I think we should discuss a few changes. As of now, the Master Training Quests can be found at the bottom of the relevant NPC page and it is starting to look messy. Take a look at Dagail for a perfect example – the page is not even finished and the Master Training Quest is already out of sight. Her quest is not entirely complicated, but it could still use its own page – it looks kindda messy with the quest stages and everything. For a more complicated quest, take a look at Pranal. That page is more or less finished but it is a mess (a bit like Umbra (person) was a mess until recently). I suggest that we give the Master Training quests seperate pages (and do some rewriting on some of them while we're at it) – and let the NPC pages provide info on the NPC only.

Oh, and another thing – while I was researching for the Methredhel page, I noticed that we don't have a quest page for the Independent Thievery-quest. Wouldn't it be a good idea to produce such a page – after months on the IRC, one of the most common questions have been – "where do I find the most valuable loot for the Doyens" ect ect. Why not take some of the player tips from the Thieves Guild page and make a proper quest page for the IT quest? --Krusty 22:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

In response to Krusty's concern, I created this, as a basic layout for the master training quests. Feel free to check it and post what you think here :) --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 01:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

It's good! Make sure you use {{Journal Entries}} though. And the ID isn't correct, but that's minor. If you plan on making all of them, just tell me; I can help you with the rest if you need it. –Elliot ^talk 02:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Actually I posted the ID from the Trainers page, and I really wasn't sure if it was correct, luckily it was only a sandbox. I would be glad to make them and I could also use some help with the pages (21 pages are too much for a single person), so thanks in advance for any help. By the way, where can I find the correct IDs? :) --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 02:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

They are in the Journal Entries box in the parentheses (TrainingAlteration). I can get started tonight, I will go backwards alphabetically so we don't bump into each other. –Elliot ^talk 02:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I will start some tonight and continue tomorrow. :) --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 02:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, now that all the pages are finished, we need to decide if we should include them in the Oblivion:Quests page or in each city page as a related quest. And do we really still need the Oblivion:Master Training page? I mean now that we have an individual page for each one I think that the page is redundant. --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 17:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Scratch the first statement, I see that they are included in [[Category:Oblivion-Quests]], which can be accessed from the first link. As for the Master Training page I still think is redundant. Thoughts? Complaints? :P --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 23:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it would make much sense to not have a ob:Master Training overview page. There are many pages that link to the page when referring to master training in general. I've changed the links in the table to point directly to the quest articles. --GK^Talk2me 04:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks GK. At first I thought that it would be better to delete them , but you're right there are quite a few pages that link there. :) --^MC• S'drassa ^•T2M 04:35, 16 December 2009 (UTC)