Lore talk:Sex

Sex vs Romance

This page should be about actual sex and reproduction, not all romantic relationships. I removed the Ghost/human and human/dremora bits because while they are interesting romantic relationships, there's no clear sexual component. The only references to a purely physical relationship in the dremora instance is where one guy makes an offhand comment that flame atronachs would be better because they are nice to look at, while also pointing out that sex wouldn't work there because they'd burn the person. So the only sexual part explicitly rules out sex... These quests just don't fit on a page about sex. If the page was named "romance", they'd 100% fit, but it's not. Jeancey (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Whilst I agree that it is not explicit, it's still interesting lore which doesn't really fit in most places but deserves to be listed somewhere. Whilst you're correct that this pages' intention is not Sex & Romance, I do think it's in the same ballpark so to speak. Perhaps a compromise could be moving it down to the Misc section, or perhaps the notes? CoolBlast3 (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Reorganization

I'd like to propose the adjustment of the Imperial section as follows (refs and newline removed, header adjusted):

Entertainment

Crassius Curio is commonly believed to have written an erotic play during the Third Era. The bawdy work, known as "The Lusty Argonian Maid", features an Argonian maid and is well-known throughout Tamriel. Despite this belief, it instead came from a long line of stories told by traveling bards, each with its own unique spin on the tale. Among these adaptations are "The Lusty Bosmeri" and "Two Moons for Sugar" in Tamriel's southern regions, and "Shornhelm's Lucky Orifice", "The Sandy Spear of Alik'r", and "The Maiden's Tight Hold" across the continent's north and northwest. A choral adaptation of the play exists, as do art folios. Mindtrait0r (talk) 01:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

This isn't a bad idea. The only shame with it would be Imperials having nothing else of note, but it would be more accurate. Another issue however would be that a lot of items on other races are also technically entertainment, and would therefore concentrate a lot on a single section. Personally, I prefer having things by race for "easy access". But again, your suggestion is also entirely valid so I'll wait for others to pitch in too. CoolBlast3 (talk) 08:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Page Protection

Given the nature of the subject matter this article covers, perhaps we should consider proactively protecting this page (semi-protection) to prevent it becoming a target for inappropriate material/vandalism. — Wolfborn^(Howl) 02:22, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Desele's (Morrowind) and Haelga's (Skyrim)

Desele's, from Morrowind, is briefly mentioned in the "Dunmer" section, but the owner, and the three dancers, aren't Dark Elves. Marelle, one of the dancers, has dialogue that at least implies that she'll do a little more than dancing, for a price. As far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any "official" objection (guards, Temple, etc) to this activity.

Similarly, Haelga's Bunkhouse, from Skyrim, is more or less stated to offer similar services. Again, there doesn't seem to be any "official" objection to this, although the Caught Red Handed quest implies that Haelga's customers don't always want everyone to know about it.

If these specific locations don't merit more detailed mentions on their own, maybe they'd be a part of a section on, uh, "people of negotiable virtue". There's a reference to this currently in the "Bretons" section, but that's about it.

73.185.239.90 07:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

When it comes to Haelga's, it's pretty much a brothel as an open-secret.. People don't want to be outed as attending it, but that's because they personally don't want their social status ruined. When it comes to Desele, even if it isn't exactly prostitution, it's still a fantasy equivalent of a strip club. Promiscuous dancers entertaining people. Whilst not literal sex, it is still recreation of a sexual nature. In ESO, it's Dunmer owned, and its sexual nature is rather explicit "Looking for someone to warm your bed? I can recommend someone for that, too."" Having said that, an "entertainment" section is a good idea, and would be a better fit for the Lusty Argonian Maid, as another talk section discussed. I'll see about doing such soon/eventually! CoolBlast3 (talk) 11:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Miscellaneous Section

The miscellaneous section is far too unfocused and filled with trivia, I would suggest it be removed and any useful information incorporated into other section. The goal of the article shouldn't be to list every sexual encounter in Elder Scrolls lore, we don't need to have things documented here like Orgnum and Potema having sex if we can't think of anything else to say about it beyond that fact. Lore:Breton doesn't document every single Breton in existence, because that would be absurd. The same logic applies here. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 17:04, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Whilst I agree that stuff like Orgnum and King Hrol might be a tad too broad, everything else there I believe deserves to be listed in the article as they're unique situations or scenarios. The only one I'd possibly move out is Divayth Fyr's clones to Reproduction. The rest I cannot see fitting in many other sections if any, but still deserve their spots on the page CoolBlast3 (talk) 17:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I agree with CoolBlast3, some of the specific sexual encounters should be removed but some of the facts about the sexual nature of things like nymphs an nereids, and the strange umbriel people, doesnt have a better place. Also stuff like the only example of a golem engaging in sexual behavior. Tarponpet (talk) 1:15 PM, 2 June 2023 (EST)

I included the encounter between Orgnum and Potema not on the basis of the encounter itself, but because of the fact that Orgnum gave her some herbs beforehand that supposedly greatly enhanced the experience which feels directly pertinent to an article of this nature, although the sentence could stand to be reworded if anyone should wish. Dcking20 (talk) 17:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Sexually transmitted infections

I think we should add information on sti's or sexually transmitted infections as this is something that's part of the world of tes. TheSeldomConsitentEditor (talk) 12:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)