Skyrim talk:I Done Got Thaned!

Bug

Seems like this quest can get bugged and become uncompleteable if you clear Cragslan before you get the task to Disrupt the Skooma operation there. — Unsigned comment by 99.94.169.142 (talk) at 19:24 on 20 November 2011

The quest has become bugged for me despite doing everything in the correct order. Bought the property, went to have a look at it before decorating it, after decorating spoke to the Jarl and she won't acknowledge that I've bought it. --Valadez 17:01, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

The same thing has happened to me. She told me to talk to her again after I bought the house. I bought it and all the decorations, but she doesn't have any talk options relating to it, and standing near her gets no response. — Unsigned comment by 98.228.16.226 (talk) at 03:41 on 23 November 2011

For those getting stuck at the end, setstage FreeformRiftenThane 200 seems to do the trick. You become thane of Riften, get a levelled weapon and can now find Iona in Honeyside. If others can confirm this works for them, please add the fix to the main page. - 83.103.179.60 12:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, seems to have done the trick 69.133.198.165 18:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Confirmed YA: Gets stuck on stage 15. Setting to 200 completes the quest and completes all pending tasks as mentioned above. — Unsigned comment by Homer55 (talk • contribs) at 23:37 on 24 November 2011

In my case, getstage returns 20; setstage 200 works but setstage 30 doesn't (says stage not found). Also, if completed this way, I don't see the quest on the finished quest list. 71.132.201.220 07:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Instead of changing quest stages you can change the wrong value of quest variable from 2 (house visited) to 1 (house not visited), typing a command setPapyrusQuestVar HousePurchase RiftenHouseVar_var 1. Then just talk to jarl. Entering the Honeyside later will change this variable back to 2. --Olauron 22:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

(←) Im not recieving the quest, is it because i finished the Imperial Legion Questline and the Jarl is different? -Azurome 02:13, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Apparently, if you buy the house, then the decorations before talking to the Jarl, it will bug (as opposed to buying JUST the house, then talking to her). This seems to have happened to me. I'm going to try the above fix. — Unsigned comment by Eyrika (talk • contribs) at 05:21 on 1 December 2011

Replication

Was able to replicate bug. If you buy the house (Honeyside) from the Steward before you talk to the Jarl (when she tells you she is going to make you Thane), then the quest gets bugged and won't let you proceed with quest. This seems to be due to the intended sequence of the quest being 1. Talk to Jarl 2. Buy House from the Steward 3. Talk to Jarl where she makes you Thane. By completing step 2 before step 1, the Jarl will no longer have any speach options for step 1 or 3.

The bug can also be replicated by, talking to the Jarl first (step 1), buying the house from the Steward (step 2), leaving and visiting the house, and returning to speak to the Jarl for step 3. She will be bugged this way as well. Decoration of house does not seem to affect this quest, rather it is the act of visiting the house that can trigger the bug. (Perhaps the main quest description should eliminate step 5 so as to not encourage the bug to happen. You do not need to visit the house to become Thane.) - Oldbucsfan 21:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I suspect that what some interpret as decoration creating the bug is actually them visiting the house before completing the quest. I am guessing that they not only upgraded, but went to see their upgrades before talking to the Jarl the last time. I have tried (repeatedly) to get upgrading the house to cause the bug, but it will not for me. - Oldbucsfan 21:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Additionally I had an issue where every time I entered Honeyside various textures would fail to load and I'd end up with floors, items and various decorations invisible. It seems that this stemmed from the bug as I was unable to talk to the Jarl, and when I force-completed the quest the house worked fine and I've had no problems since. Aren13 23:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Bug Avoidance

Talk to Jarl first, immediately buy house from the Steward, and immediately talk to Jarl again. Do not visit the house before talking to the Jarl the second time or deviate from this order. - Oldbucsfan 21:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Never Even Got The Quest

Did this a couple days ago but just stumbled onto this page today. Looking through my quest list now and I never received this quest. Wish I could elaborate, but it is not fresh in my memory and I have no idea what I may have done to not get it. I did everything for the quest and was still named Thane, in fact I just committed a crime to make sure and the dialogue option did pop up, so I'm definitely Thane. Odd bug as a side effect though: didn't receive the Blade of the Rift for becoming Thane. Got some enchanted Iron weapon, I thought she was just being cheap so I killed her sons. Whoops.--Affubalator 05:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

"thought she was just being cheap so I killed her sons. Whoops." <---- (LMAO xD) — Unsigned comment by 173.33.113.75 (talk) at 07:28 on 15 December 2011

I became Thane, but only received an enchanted iron weapon as well. In my case, I believe it was because I helped the required number of people before actually being given the quest to become Thane. Hopefully someone else can verify this. — Unsigned comment by 70.71.134.5 (talk) at 20:33 on 5 December 2011

Reply: It is not a side quest, it is a miscellaneous quest and therefore won't show up in the completed quests section of your journal. You in fact get something called the "Blade of the Rift" when you complete the quest, but it is not named that in your inventory. Instead it is a random leveled weapon, so what you describe is not a bug, but just the way this quest works. - Oldbucsfan 22:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I saved the game and then realized I got the bug where Jarl wont speak to me :( Is there a console command to fix this? "FreeformRiftenThane 30"? I'll try this.... — Unsigned comment by 82.141.83.241 (talk) at 12:31 on 12 December 2011

I have done the Skooma Trade quest and I never got the option to help people of Riften. There is no new dialogue and the Skooma Trade quest and it won't even appear in my completed quests anymore. I can't buy a house, and there is no option when talking to guards after commiting a crime. — Unsigned comment by ThatMagicalHobo (talk • contribs) at 04:46 on 16 December 2011

I never got the request to "help people in the Rift" either. However, if you go to random towns and mines, you will find people in addition to the small favors to the vendors and people in Rifton itself. After you do a few, it counts. Even though there is no tally for how many people you helped. The easiest I found was delivering letters from a female miner at Red Belly Mine, as well as clearing the spiders out of the mine (near Shor's Stone), finding the gold and jewels for the jewelry trader at the market place, finding the lost items for the Jarl's mage, and the amethysts for the Argonian man in the tavern. They go pretty quick, but there are a plethora you can do if you talk to everyone. 67.171.233.87 21:49, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I did all of the stuff to become the thane for Maven Black-Briar, and she said she made me a thane, but I got an iron warhammer, no housecarl, and it doesn't show the thane option whenever I commit a crime... I am on X-Box 360. Is there any way to fix this? — Unsigned comment by Pey10con (talk • contribs) at 06:24 on 29 December 2011

Don't do that. — Unsigned comment by 116.49.176.195 (talk) at 14:06 on 22 January 2012

(←) Reply: I got the "Iron Sword of Souls" after being named Thane, the quest "I Done Got Thaned" never appeared by the nameless one appeared under misc. I have the options for thane and i know i did it right. Just a buggy quest.... — Unsigned comment by 71.184.167.80 (talk) at 20:59 on 30 December 2011

I have Xbox 360 and I've done of few of the side quests and the main one but the Jarl of Riften doesn't make me thane! There is no option of buying a house! — Unsigned comment by 116.49.176.195 (talk) at 14:06 on 22 January 2012

Bladeless Thane

When I became Thane of Riften, a glitch occurred to where the Jarl did not give me a the Blade of the Rift. While I have not tested it, I suspect it may have occurred because I purchased the house decorations before speaking to the Jarl to actually become a Thane. This was in the PS3 version of the game, on the 1.2 patch, so it may or may not have been fixed by the 1.3 patch and it may or may not be in the other versions. — Unsigned comment by 99.195.83.215 (talk) at 10:33 on 17 December 2011

Same problem on 360. It makes no difference what order you do things in. You will get a random enchanted iron weapon. Weak! So far this bug is not fixed by any patches. I've tried up to 1.3 patch. If anyone figures out a way around this bug please let me know!75.169.233.59 19:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed issue for PC ver. 1.3.1.0 as well. I recently received an Iron Dagger of Sparks from Laila Law-Giver instead of the Blade of the Rift. Though I suppose simply enchanting a weapon and naming it "Blade of the Rift" could provide a means for those who mount the Honorary Weapons somewhere in their homes. -KrinDo-vahkiin 05:56, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

After spending hours trying to figure away around the bug, I ended up enchanting one myself. I know from experience this is something they will never bother fixing.~~ — Unsigned comment by 75.169.216.56 (talk) at 07:49 on 9 January 2012

Yet another confirmation on PC 1.3 - I got a generic enchanted Iron Mace. The fact that 100% of the reports are of an Iron weapon may just be leveled list thing, or it might be another bug, but it's probably not worth mentioning just yet since there's another patch and the CK supposedly in the next 5 days at most. Aliana 02:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

How can I use the console to be re-granted the weapon? I do not remember what I got and if I sold or disenchanted the blade. I just want a "Foo of the Rift" to hang on the wall. I do not seem to receive anything if I reset the quest. White Cat 17:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I have 1.7.7.6 and Dawnguard DLC...I'm getting the one handed Axe of Sparks (not the exact name, obviously). I've tried all kind of reloads and leaving the area. I simply can't get the Blade I'm supposed to here. — Unsigned comment by 97.73.64.142 (talk) at 02:32 on 4 October 2012‎

Seems everyone else has been getting iron weapons, but I got an ebony bow of petrifying. I'm playing PC, completely vanilla. I think the only reason it's not iron is because there's no such thing as an iron bow, so maybe that forced it to pick a material that matches my level. Still not named Blade of Riften, even though I'm posting this 8 years after everyone else.67.171.55.219 18:02, 19 May 2020 (GMT)

can't buy house

after doing all the quests I speak to the Jarl and she says to buy the house from the steward and then she'll make me thane. I turn to the steward and she has no option for buying a house. It can't be fixed by "setstage FreeformRiftenThane 200" because that unlocks honeyside and throws the housecarl in but i can't buy accessories for the house. someone please help, I've encountered a mean bug!124.169.153.71-Atlas

I experienced the same problem, I first did the quest to stop the skooma trade. Next i gave the blacksmith of Riften ten fire salts i next help the redguard stable assistant clear his debt from Saphire, then i gave the Argonian who works at the Bee and the Barb 3 gems to complete his ring to propose.I finally did the quest for the confused court mage to retrieve her items she lost. I went and talked to the Jarl she told me to buy a house and and talked to the steward and there was no option.(i did not do the civil war questline so the jarl is still laila law-giver and the steward is still ANuriel) The pc cheat to skip this part doesn't allow me to upgrade the house either. I'm stuck. -Wilkoff1 00:56, 3 January 2012

I've run into the same issue - Getting stuck on stage 20. Good to know I'm not the only one. My work-around doesn't solve the problem, but at least now I can store things in Honeyside and take Iona as a follower: I entered the command setPapyrusQuestVar HousePurchase RiftenHouseVar_var 1, then added the Honeyside key to my inventory; entered the house, went back to the Jarl, and now I'm Thane with Honeyside as my property. However, this did not fix the Anuriel dialog bug, so she doesn't have the additional conversation options and I can't redecorate the house. -Gristlemcthornbody (talk) 20:41, 30 December 2012 (GMT)

And to decorate the house, use the prid followed by the number, then [enter] and on a new line, enable. So to do the kitchen, it's prid c7f19 [enter] enable. The other rooms numbers are porch c7f1e, garden c7f1d, bedroom c7f18, alchemy c7f1b, enchanting table c7f1c. -Gristlemcthornbody (talk) 00:14, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

Housecarl never shows up...

I was able to purchase and furnish the house in Riften, but the housecarl never appears. I also noticed even after repeatedly returning to speak to the Jarl it never comes off the secondary task list. More troublesome is now the compass marker for ANY secondary quests is not functioning! I'm too far past this to load and replay it differently at this point but if anyone knows how to get my compass pointer working again it would sure help...playing on xbox so the above fixes aren't available to attempt. — Unsigned comment by Hank382 (talk • contribs) at 04:15 on 3 January 2012

I also never got the housecarl, though I am Thane and Honeyside is completely furnished (except for what I presume is the housecarl's room). There is no option to have a dialogue with Maven (who is now Jarl of Riften in my game). I don't recall any quests involving the skooma trade. I don't have an issue with my compass pointer. --Achariel 19:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I would assume for you, Achariel, that what happened is that you finished either the Stormcloak or Imperial questline (also during a peace treaty quest along the main quest line) you chose a different Jarl thus eliminating the need to complete the quest line. also does anyone know where Iona is before you become thane so that you could find her and tell her follow me and then say leave so she'll go to the house? I play on xbox and currently have no idea how to fix this bug — Unsigned comment by 75.109.81.42 (talk) at 21:21 on 6 February 2012

Iona spawns when she gets assigned to you and you cannot meet her before that (same for some other NPCs). --Ulkomaalainen 21:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thane of Riften

I browsed above, but didnt see the same scenario as mine.

I have completed the Skooma quest, and successfully cleared out the mine and received my award of an enchanted iron weapon from the Jarl

However now there is no option with the Jarl to discuss about becoming a Thane or buying a house. Ive tried completing more misc quests for residents but still no luck, and ive probably completed about 10. Any ideas?84.13.204.31 15:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, but I'm having this same problem. I took out Cragslane as scheduled, everything in order, and reported back to her to tell her I had cleared it out, she gave me the enchanted weapon... and then nothing. No dialogue about becoming Thane, no opportunity to buy a house. — Unsigned comment by 108.15.69.247 (talk) at 07:15 on 12 January 2012

The house will not be bought from the Jarl but from the Steward thus there is no option with the Jarl to talk about it - tried asking her? --Ulkomaalainen 00:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I had the same problem, talked with the steward and still didn't get the house option.... wtf? — Unsigned comment by 66.30.228.48 (talk) at 01:46 on 2 February 2012

Same issue. Can't do anything about it. This better get fixed. And fast. — Unsigned comment by 75.131.255.49 (talk) at 23:54 on 25 February 2012

Same here on PS3. I've helped lots of people, done the complete skooma and cavern thing, even done bounty quests. I've bought the house and completely furnished it. The Jarl never gives me a conversation option about becoming thane. — Unsigned comment by 71.7.173.131 (talk) at 12:32 on 4 March 2012

I had this problem until I completed the quest for The jarl's mage.

(←) The Jarl of Riften will not have the option to become Thane (and therefore no house buying option) until you help 5 people in Riften. This is the only Thane quest that doesn't give a 'citizens helped' misc quest tracker. You simply have to remember how many people you've helped. Once you have helped 5 people though the option 'Is there anything I can help Riften with?' from the Jarl of Riften opens up and it lets you buy Honeyside. — Unsigned comment by 76.31.164.249 (talk) at 01:12 on 28 September 2012

If you got the enchanted weapon, you've completed this quest. Congrats. --Morrolan (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2013 (GMT)

Can't start the Quest

Ok, I can't even start this quest. I've tried everything I can think of, buying Honeyside, helping people, ect. Whenever I talk to the Jarl, Maven (since I finished the Imperial Civil War Quests), she just says "My title is just a fomality. I've always been in charge around here." That's it. I can't even enter a dialogue with her

216.59.228.188 16:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

same here is there any way it can be fixed at all? — Unsigned comment by 24.108.22.104 (talk) on 20 March 2012

Confirmed. This bug NEEDS to be in the bug section of this page. Maven does not offer the dialogue options to retrieve you position as thane like every other new Jarl does. I know I became a thane of Riften before she took over, but now all she does is gloat. She doesn't even have the conversation options she had before becoming jarl.--Playerseekingbugs 00:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Bug fix in patch 1.4

Bethesda lists this bug as fixed in patch 1.4: http://kotaku.com/5877738/skyrims-creation-kit-is-nearly-ready

"Fixed issue where player would be unable to become Thane of Riften if they purchased a home first"

Oldbucsfan 15:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

not a glitch

its not supposed to show up saying how many people you helped. you simply help people and then talk to the jarl. she tells you how helpful you've been and says you can be jarl if you buy a house. — Unsigned comment by 108.17.78.205 (talk) at 05:42 on 27 January 2012

No it is most defenitly a glitch if not many; you need to compleat the skooma quest line, and help out the mage (no major bugs that i know of) then you need to buy the house (no bug) but if you do not talk to the jarl as soon as you buy it there are many bugs (for me, I bought all of the upgrades went to my house and then became thane and no Iona; I also know that the Blade of the Rift [or whatever its called] is only an enchanted iron weapon [would assume a bug] plus a few others — Unsigned comment by 75.109.81.42 (talk) at 21:16 on February 6, 2012

All the insignia weapons of thanes (the "Blade of Whateverhold") are random enchanted iron weapons, usually with a soul trap. Probably WAD though I would have loved to see some if not useful then at least appealing ceremonial weaponry. --Ulkomaalainen 21:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to clarify that helping Wylandriah is not the trigger as the anonymous user above seems to believe. I'm guessing that user completed 2-3 miscellaneous helping quests before completing Wylandriah's quest, so for them the Jarl's offer to become Thane was prompted after that quest. However, it is not necessary to do that specific quest in order to be offered Thaneship. I have become Thane in Riften on three different characters, and only one of them even spoke to Wylandriah. Alphabetface 21:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Blade Can Never Be Rerolled and Never Levels

From experimenting, it looks like the enchanted weapon you get at the end of the quest is locked in. (I used "setstage" to complete the quest from the beginning of the game in helgen, and it never rerolls.) Explains why it's always iron. It's never anything more powerful (glass, steel, etc.). The only way to change the enchantment on the actually weapon is to start a new game, and "check" it before you continue playing. — Unsigned comment by Jamesatorres (talk • contribs) at 03:56 on 23 February 2012

It looks like you're right. The weapon appears to be random, but if I'm understanding the Creation Kit right, it's only randomized at the beginning of the game. – Robin Hood↝talk 04:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The bug is said to be fixed by the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, but still it's always an iron sword in my case ~ Dwarfmp (talk) 02:26, 24 January 2013 (GMT)

Still has the bug when the city changes control

If you become Thane with Laila Law-Giver, then Riften changes control, Maven Black-Briar will never give you the option to become Thane. 24.156.216.144 11:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

But if you're already Thane, wouldn't it not matter? eshe^talk 17:33, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes it matters (not in practice but in spirit), because you can't use the Thane defense when criminal act gets caught. 71.132.198.190 08:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

You can only become thane once in any of the cities where you can become thane, so it's not specific to this quest/city. It might be an annoyance that you can only use that defense once, but that's how it is everywhere. ABCface^◥ 13:51, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

That is not true, after finishing the civil war questline I went to Dawnstar (where I was thane). I spoke to the new jarl, and she made me thane again. But Maven refuse to do just that. I think it has something to do with the "bought the house before speaking to the jarl" bug.

You can become thane in every city save Riften, Windhelm, and Solitude (and perhaps Falkreath) twice. Every hold you take down for the imperials nets you an instant thaning from the new jarl if you were thaned before, except Riften. Riften's quest for becoming thane again under Maven is bugged.--Playerseekingbugs 02:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

(←) Actually it may be possible to become thane three times in some holds. (Remember, it's thane of a hold, not thane of a city.) For example, you can become Thane in The Reach under Igmund, then transfer it to the Stormcloaks using Skyrim:Season Unending, become thane again, then conquer it back for the Legion and possibly become Thane yet again. I haven't yet tested this theory out to see if it would work though. Still, not in The Rift. --Morrolan (talk) 04:58, 13 September 2013 (GMT)

Another Bug: Can't Become Thane

The current Jarl is Maven Black-Briar. I have repeatedly completed the quest necessary to become Thane but am still unable. IMMEDIATELY after buying the house, I tried to talk with Maven, but she refuses to speak to me. No dialog box shows up and all she does is utter some random phrases (like when you attempt to engage a guard in conversation). I have tried all possible different combination of talking to her, talking to her stuart, and completing the quest in different orders. Is this objective impossible or was I simply curses with the buggiest version of this game.

Bug with Maven

So, I've done the quests for the people, I've received the enchanted weapon, I've bought Honeyside and it's upgrades. I live in Hjerim of Windhelm, and made my spouse live in Honeyside. I decide it would be more or less realistic if the unfurnished room becomes furnished- as though my spouse has her own room (I like rpg stuff and i'm O.C.D. about organization). So i decide i will furnish the room by becoming thane and getting the Housecarl who is required to have the furnished version of the room. later of course i will kill her so it is only my spouse who lives there. now it occurs to me that Maven is Jarl, and i recall reading about how she cannot grant a 'carl. i play an xbox and i don't even know what a 'console command' is. nonetheless if it works for an xbox. so if you have any ideas at all plz post them. and ty. — Unsigned comment by 76.183.241.163 (talk) at 01:05 on 26 June 2012

If you're on XBox, you won't be able to use console commands, it's something only PC players can do. But I don't think there's any reason that there would be an issue getting your housecarl after Maven is jarl, as she can still grant thaneship and the two kind of go together. ABCface^◥ 03:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Unless Elisif thaned you first. It seems that when Maven becomes jarl and you go up to her expecting the same one minute rethaning you get in Dawnstar and Winterhold; she just sits and gloats about her new position 24/7. I need to test what this means for Iona.--Playerseekingbugs 07:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

It means absolutely nothing for Iona. Housecarl grants are permanent. Once you've been thane once, you have that hold's housecarl available as a follower until he or she dies (and if your housecarl dies and you get rethaned, you don't get a new housecarl). --Morrolan (talk) 14:53, 13 September 2013 (GMT)

Are you sure these quests all work

I've tried to do the easiest quests to get my three quests to become thane - Gather Wheat, Chop Wood, and Quests All Beggars Have - but when I do all three of those, I'm not offered to talk to the Jarl about thaneship.

If these quests don't count towards becoming thane, they shouldn't be included.70.178.75.207 21:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you bought the house and completed the skooma dealing quest? RIM 22:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Judging by the age of this post, I guess you've sorted it out by now. But just in case anyone else is stuck, you have to talk to Wujeeta in the docks before the Jarl will offer to talk to you about being Thane. And for the Rift, you need to do five miscellaneous help quests, not three as with many other Holds. Baratron (talk) 05:15, 12 April 2013 (GMT)

Hearthfire and Thane quests

I'm trying to get TThane of Falkreath but unfortunatly the Jarl ((siddgeir)) isn't giving me the quest for it. It's frustrating and I'm not sure what I have done wrong or what I havn't done. I did talk to Siddgeir with a black briar mead in my inventory but he isn't having me go run out and get him one or even go kill the banits giving him problems. I went to his steward and got a bounty quest and then turned it into Siddgeir but I still havn't got his Thane mission. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.--67.185.108.121 16:30, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

Make sure you dont have any of these quests in your to do list Rare Gifts. You can only have 1 of them in your quest log at any one time. I had the same problem as you, but I had the mirror quest to do. I finished that quest and Thane then asked me for the Mead.. PB — Unsigned comment by 188.92.235.98 (talk) at 13:38 on 6 September 2012‎

It's annoying, but if you've completed the Dark Brotherhood quest: Kill Helvard you will never get the quest to become a thane from Siddgeir. For some reason, even if you weren't spotted, you'll be permanently set to a "Foe" status, and will have to join the Stormcloaks and take over Falkreath in order to get the thaneship. — Unsigned comment by 71.218.184.4 (talk) at 16:35 on 23 January 2013

Gadnor

Gadnor should really not be on the list of quest-givers, as dead men give no quests, and Gadnor is always dead. I'd remove him but I'm afraid I'd mess up the table. 98.204.42.6 20:09, 26 April 2013 (GMT)

Good catch. I'm not even sure HOW to edit the contents of a table, or I'd remove him myself. Can somebody who DOES know how to do it take care of this? ThuumofReason (talk) 20:13, 26 April 2013 (GMT)

Done --~The wind, forsaken~ (talk) 20:25, 26 April 2013 (GMT)

Making Friends and Influencing People

Currently, Making Friends and Influencing People is listed as a concurrent quest to this one. I don't think it is, for a number of reasons:

1. Making Friends and Influencing People goes by dispositions. If you help four people in one quest, then it increments its counter by four. Completing The Book of Love helps three people in the Rift, but it doesn't seem to automatically advance the quest meter by three for this quest. Instead, this quest seems to go by quests completed, and only increments its counter when you complete a quest on its list.
2. Making Friends and Influencing People increments its counter immediately when you improve someone's disposition. For example, if you're doing the Thane of Haafingar quest, and you hand the ashes of Potema to Styrr as a part of The Wolf Queen Awakened, then your objective set by Making Friends and Influencing People is incremented by one. (I think it's because it affects Styrr's disposition, but so far I've been unable to find the code in CSList.)
3. Making Friends and Influencing People adds an objective to your quest log. No such objective is ever added while doing this quest.
4. Examination of the scripting for this quest on CSList shows no stages set in Making Friends and Influencing People, unlike, say, Thane of the Reach which has FavorJarlsMakeFriends.SetStage(10) in it which activates the objective. At the end of the quest when this quest completes, it does use pFavorJarlsMakeFriends.GetOutofJailCard(Alias_FFRiftenThaneLailaJarlAlias.GetActorRef()) or pFavorJarlsMakeFriends.GetOutofJailCard(Alias_FFRiftenThaneMavenJarlAlias.GetActorRef()) (depending on which NPC is Jarl of Riften) but that seems to just be used to activate the one-time use thaneship to ignore a bounty scripting. — Unsigned comment by Morrolan (talk • contribs) at 21:46 on 7 October 2013

This analysis is correct. Riften's Thane quest does not work the same way the other holds do and looks to have been a very deliberate departure from the normal system. Arthmoor (talk) 04:27, 24 April 2014 (GMT)

PC - Re-Aquiring Thane status under Maven via Console

Assuming you already purchased Honeyside and were a thane under Laila: 1) Open console 2) resetquest FreeformRiftenThane 3) setstage FreeformRiftenThane 20 4) Talk to Maven, receive thane status. — Unsigned comment by 67.0.87.165 (talk) at 04:44 on 8 September 2014

The above advice got Maven to recognize me as her Thane. But guards still do not recognize me as Thane. — Unsigned comment by 120.72.90.198 (talk) at 12:05 on 22 December 2017